Spanking children or dogs falls into that category so does getting drunk and throwing up. It doesn’t matter who inflicts the punishment – if it’s painful and results from the behavior, it’s punishment.
I have told my own daughters on numerous occasions that while it is good to be friendly to every one, that doesn’t mean you have to be friends with everyone. Another important point is: just because this girl . . .
He envisioned each one filled with poets and artists and performers—all gathering in the central “salon,” a la the East Village or Paris—drinking sherry and carrying on endless philosophical discussions before . .